Those of us on the WIRED Culture team only have one thing on our minds this week: The Night Of. Sure, other big things are happening in the world of entertainment, but every time our thoughts wander, they always come back to HBO’s gritty crime drama. Man that show was good.

The Night Of also has us thinking some very deep thoughts about what it is that makes a perfect series finale. Is it better when everything is tied up all nice and neat? Or are shows more enjoyable when they end on a note of mystery? Can a good finale save a lackluster season? Can a bad finale ruin an otherwise great series? These are important questions. To answer them, we put the Monitor crew in the podcast booth and asked them to hash it out.

Join us, won’t you? We’ve got writers and editors Peter Rubin, K.M. McFarland, Emma Grey Ellis, and Angela Watercutter on the mic and they’re ready to talk about the best (and worst) series finales of all time. Tune in now to see if you agree.

A few helpful links for things we talk about in the podcast:

-Angela Watercutter and Brian Raftery’s crosstalk on the Night Of finale
-Angela Watercutter’s story on why some shows need to say no to second seasons

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